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Post by Dodgers GM on Jul 10, 2007 23:46:10 GMT -5
Okay guys, I decided that the catchy title might get your attention. I think its terribly unjust how the Brewers GM is taking advantage of his power as a commish in this league over the rest of us.
Look at the Coaching FA. Tonight he just randomly decided to close it, which in and of itself is already an issue in that he never once mentioned to the league as a whole that he would stop the bidding at some point, much less tonight. The second, but far greater issue, is how he takes abuse of the situation. I ask each of you to go to the Coaching FA section and look at the times for the last posts for each of the last guys that were bid on. If you look close enough you will see that he made his own bids for the guys he wanted, and then decided to close bidding for everyone. So basically to put it in simple terms, he bid on the coaches he wanted then closed it to prevent anybody else from getting the guys he put bids on last.
So guys does this seem fair to you at all? Ask yourselves this question, is it ok for a commish to be taking abuse of his power on us and wielding it however he wants to? I for one don't think its fair that he did that. I know he screwed me over because of what he did tonight in that now I can't get my bids in for the coaches I wanted....and I'm sure he screwed more than one of you over if you were interested in bidding again and getting the guy you wanted.
Some of you may be thinking that its only a few guys, and he left most of the guys untouched. But that isn't the problem at hand guys, its the principle of the situation. For example, you still get in trouble and its still just as bad in principle if you steal a cookie from a store or if you steal a Snickers bar or anything else for that matter.
To prevent this matter, all you had to do Brewers, was just give us at least a 2 day notice, at least. But it was how you took advantage of your power that made me write this all out for everyone.
Peace.
-Danny
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Post by royalsgm on Jul 10, 2007 23:51:41 GMT -5
Just wanted to make the point that LA, it WAS posted on the coaches bid forum part.
However, I do think that it's kind of gay that Milwaukee made his bids and then closed the threads, especially being 4 minutes before the deadline was supposed to be. Not that it mattered for me since I didn't bid after any of those guys, but at least close it when you say you would, which was 11:30 eastern, not 11:26 eastern. Thta's still 4 minutes that somebody could make a final bid.
And he gave you plenty of notice. In fact it was SUPPOSED to close Monday, which he announced well in advance (the previous week).
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Post by Yankees on Jul 10, 2007 23:53:13 GMT -5
i agree it was posted but closed early after his final bids where made.
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Post by Dodgers GM on Jul 10, 2007 23:57:15 GMT -5
Be it as it may, even if he gave a warning this morning...that is still not preventive enough. He gave what, a 10-11 hours of warning? That isn't enough for most guys. If your gonna close the FA you gotta give time for people to check and know whats going on....I can swear I had no idea that was posted. Yes that may be my fault, but I am sure I wasn't the only one who didn't notice/know that. I can guarantee probably half of you guys didn't know it was going to close tonight at the time he posted (and remember he closed it 4 minutes before the scheduled time). I mean I can tell you I was one of those who got on and saw that message and was in shock cause I had no idea what was going on.
And the second issue still stands, in how he abused his power by closing it right after he made his bids.
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Post by Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Jul 11, 2007 0:29:32 GMT -5
I'm on the fence with this one. I personally didn't get to see the deadline and yes I would have made some bids. Yes, he did give an exact deadline to get offers in. But then again, the deadline was pretty spur of the moment (all things considered). Of course not everyone gets to check the boards regularly, or daily for that matter. But here's two suggestions I might recommend:
#1- Extend the deadline to get offers in for another day or so, giving all GMs enough time to get their final bids in.
#2- Edit every team's coaching staff/scout so that they are exactly the same. (i.e. same rating: legendary, oustanding,etc.) Also set their salaries the same. This may take some time on the part of the Commish and might detract from the "realism" of the game, but then no one can possibly complain. Everyone is equal.
Those are just my two cents, take it for what you will. I think the term "abuse of power" is a little strong. We've never had a problem with anything like that before. But one can see how this situation would cause a problem. Like I said, just my two cents....
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Post by Brew Crew GM on Jul 11, 2007 16:34:40 GMT -5
First off, i didnt "randomly close it" i extended it well after i said it would be closed to let people like you get more offers in.. Second you were one of the GMs complaining that it was taking too long so dont bitch that it got shortened i was going with what you friggen suggested.. I only put my offers in that late cuz i came back to the computer a little before 1130 to start closing it and when mine said 1130 i started locking sorry my f**king clock isnt exactly the same as the one in the game but next time dont come out of nowhere saying i abuse my power when it was going with what you wanted in the first place
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Post by Dodgers GM on Jul 11, 2007 16:54:17 GMT -5
I think you are seriously mininterpreting my whole message...so I will try and relay it to you differently. My whole suggestion about FA is totally irrelevant to this whole topic of you deciding to wield your power at your descretion. My suggestion was to increase the time we sim for player FA to make it 5 days instead of the 2 days we have been going at. But that in no way relates to coaching FA at all and is totally separate.
I can acknowledge that you extended the coaching FA...i have no problem in that. But there are a few issues that come up with that. One, it was never made clear when it was to be extended to until yesterday i think at noon. Sure you extended it past the Monday deadline, but until yesterday at noon you hadn't previously told us when you were going to "lock" it.
Two, I can assure you that most people never saw that message of when you were going to close it. You can tell me that is our fault and whatnot, but as much as it is our job to keep track of our shit on the boards it is as much your problem to make sure we have ample time to check the boards and do what needs to be done. I mean I can swear that I never saw that message of you closing down coaching FA last night at 11 30 and I am probably the guy who most often checks these boards and am an active member of this league.
Three, your whole act of bidding on your own guys and then shutting it down early is shady no matter how you see it. Remember man that this is a league made for entertainment. It does no good for you to be "sniping" on these guys at the last minute and then closing it down right after...giving no time to bid on guys. Prime example is your bid for Hal McRae one minute before you closed the whole thing. That gives no time for other GM's who were interested in him to put in a bid. Thats just shady right there man, I really don't see how you can give me a valid excuse why this is fair for anybody.
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Post by Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Jul 11, 2007 17:17:46 GMT -5
Ya both make good points. Now how's about we get some resolution to the problem. There are two kick ass ideas in this very thread.... ;-)
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Post by TwinkieGM on Jul 11, 2007 17:48:34 GMT -5
If you didn't know when the offers closed, your an idiot because it was pinned. And he only went after his guys, can you blame him for getting the best offers in before it closes? What would you have done, let someone else take your guy?
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Post by Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Jul 12, 2007 0:06:57 GMT -5
I think the point Dodgers is trying to make is that he got his guys no matter what. No one had a chance to out bid him or get a deadline deal in. I still say both my options above will provide a quick and non-controversial fix to the problem.
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Post by Brew Crew GM on Jul 12, 2007 14:58:45 GMT -5
I was out with bosox last night and after talking about it we decided that TB is dead on with his idea for stanradized coaches and scouts.. bosox will be making each coach at the same level and same pay as well as coaches
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Post by Brew Crew GM on Jul 12, 2007 16:36:11 GMT -5
you guys good with that idea?
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Post by TwinkieGM on Jul 12, 2007 17:28:56 GMT -5
Saves me a lot of money LOL
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Post by Yankees on Jul 12, 2007 17:54:50 GMT -5
yeah sounds good
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Post by Dodgers GM on Jul 12, 2007 18:28:37 GMT -5
its all i ever wanted. thanks brewers for conforming to another plan.
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